tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10963137.post5994109190384381641..comments2024-03-13T14:04:46.988-07:00Comments on Art Dog Blog: Pet Portrait Business Modelsartpawhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07548549948218554126noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10963137.post-47865706489127410722009-11-21T04:50:46.995-08:002009-11-21T04:50:46.995-08:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10963137.post-9271850509702241892009-02-25T08:32:00.000-08:002009-02-25T08:32:00.000-08:00Sue Donley speaks for me when she talks about thos...Sue Donley speaks for me when she talks about those darned bad photos. I am sure it is the top gripe from most of us, and very difficult to address. I rather like the idea of some kind of discount for good photos- it might motivate people without making them feel penalized for poor photos. Does anyone one here actually do that?<BR/><BR/> Gwen Rosewater<BR/> http://www.iconicdog.comGwen Rosewaterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05048636889574289392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10963137.post-72201999497010192802009-01-12T09:10:00.000-08:002009-01-12T09:10:00.000-08:00Sue thanks so much for the well thought out commen...Sue thanks so much for the well thought out comment. YAY! I got a lurker to post. <BR/><BR/>On bad pics: I agree it would be hard to slap folks with a terrible photo fee although I have thought of it. You are right, the better approach would of course be to set your prices to assume the pics will be bad and then maybe offer a rebate of sorts for folks that actually can submit a great photo that follow your guidelines. Bad pics are 2nd on my list of headaches right after quick turn-around needs.<BR/><BR/>On refunds: in 10 years I have refunded on one canceled project due to the financial hardship of the client and have had one client cancel prior to printing. So the money back offer is a very good one for me. <BR/>Ok now off to follow you on twitter.artpawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07548549948218554126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10963137.post-28675701913538369452009-01-12T08:57:00.000-08:002009-01-12T08:57:00.000-08:00Hi Rebecca!Count me as one of the lurkers checking...Hi Rebecca!<BR/><BR/>Count me as one of the lurkers checking in! Thanks for the invitation. You are right that it feels funny at first to consort with the "competition," but when I do dare to do it, it has always been rewarding and heartwarming! What's there to fear from folks who love both art and animals? We've got a head start on connecting! <BR/><BR/>Speaking of that, I "met" Leigh on Twitter when I decided to follow some other pet portraitists. We've chatted about how great it is that with art, there's such a variety of expressive styles, that true competition seldom exists. Her new project is inspired! <BR/><BR/>My business model has been evolving, as I learn more about what makes both me and my customer comfortable. A portrait commission definitely results in a relationship, not just a sale, by the time you work with the client to select photos, send proofs back and forth, and have looked into their beloved pet's eyes for more than 10 hours.<BR/><BR/>For me to feel comfortable to initiate the relationship, I need a commitment in the form of a deposit and a signed commission agreement. For them to feel comfortable dealing with an artist they found on the web (where 50% of my clients come from), they need some kind of guarantee that they won't end up hating the portrait or losing their money, so I offer a 100% satisfaction or you even get your deposit back and I retain the portrait to sell to someone else (they can't return it after delivery unless it has been damaged in transit -- then insurance covers it). I tell them I can make that guarantee because I intend to work on it until they are happy with it. Admittedly, with my realistic style it's less risky to judge "success" than some of the more expressive styles with subjective color use, etc.<BR/><BR/>I've only had to refund a deposit once and that was because the client lost their job before I even had a chance to begin work. Though I wasn't obligated to return her deposit, I did out of basic human decency and the chance to make her a customer later. But having the deposit refund policy ("100% satisfaction guarantee or your money back") puts people at ease and fits with everything the pundits say about building trust doing business online.<BR/><BR/>Now that I've protected my customers, where I feel like I need more protection is in the quality of reference photos I get to work from (the bane of all portraitists who work from photos!). I often spend 1-2 hours in Photoshop doctoring photos and researching breeds and anatomy to make up for flash-lit, glowing-eyed, postage-stamp-sized photos. I wish I could levy a Terrible Photo Surcharge, but can't picture myself being able to implement it without caving! ;-) Maybe a Great Photo Discount would work better! I offer a lot of tips on taking suitable photos, but that only works with living pets.<BR/><BR/>I better get back to the drawing board! Thanks for the invitation to de-lurk! I appreciate your effort to open the dialog on business practices. There are enough beloved pets and unique artistic styles to go around for all of us, I think!<BR/><BR/>Sue Donley<BR/>http://www.PetsPictured.comAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10963137.post-25330614787153235982009-01-12T07:20:00.000-08:002009-01-12T07:20:00.000-08:00Hey Manon, thanks for dropping by. Kimberly, love ...Hey Manon, thanks for dropping by.<BR/><BR/> Kimberly, love the phrase "adoptable to another household". I like that not just because it is doggy, but because our artwork often feels like part of us and it can be like parting with a family member when we place our work in new hands. Thanks so much for commenting.artpawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07548549948218554126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10963137.post-65156538657025901402009-01-11T16:01:00.000-08:002009-01-11T16:01:00.000-08:00Leigh is onto a great thing. For 3 years now I've ...Leigh is onto a great thing. For 3 years now I've been doing a pet portrait a day, and it's been an amazing journey. My clients book a day, no strings attached (or deposit). I paint their animal, share it with them, blog about it for my readers, and donate proceeds to shelters and animal rescues. Total win-win - if the client wants the portrait they get it, if not, it's adoptable to another household. And homeless pets come out ahead. Another perk - daily work FORCES artistic growth, so I always win too. ksantini@turtledovedesigns.com, www.paintingadogaday.comKimberly Kelly Santinihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00142362424917327552noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10963137.post-28158979769425595682009-01-11T12:49:00.000-08:002009-01-11T12:49:00.000-08:00Great post Rebecca! I love what Leigh's doing! Tha...Great post Rebecca! I love what Leigh's doing! Thanks for sharing both Leah's and your business model. Good info!Manonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13892591394375241132noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10963137.post-75327873209800210812009-01-10T17:16:00.000-08:002009-01-10T17:16:00.000-08:00Daniel-So true and the web makes it very easy to f...Daniel-<BR/>So true and the web makes it very easy to find people you can really connect with. There is always that delicate tight rope to walk when it comes to networking with your competition, your casual associates, and yet when done well there are those true lasting friendships that can arise. Blogging can be a great tool for supporting others.artpawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07548549948218554126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10963137.post-84638275162668902582009-01-10T17:07:00.000-08:002009-01-10T17:07:00.000-08:00I love that for whatever art you do, there's a who...I love that for whatever art you do, there's a whole network of people to learn from and work with.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10963137.post-89656516980758878582009-01-10T16:03:00.000-08:002009-01-10T16:03:00.000-08:00Anne-I know what you mean on the color thing, that...Anne-<BR/>I know what you mean on the color thing, that is why I tell everyone that colors may vary from monitor to monitor, to actual print. Thanks so much for stopping by and commenting!artpawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07548549948218554126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10963137.post-64116862908511412522009-01-10T15:57:00.000-08:002009-01-10T15:57:00.000-08:00Great post Rebecca. I do admire Leigh's Pet Portra...Great post Rebecca. I do admire Leigh's Pet Portrait protocol and I think this calendar and book project will be amazing. <BR/><BR/>For me I'd never get the pet portrait done, I would obsess over 'was my client going to be happy with the final painting?' By offering a digital sketch, both the client and I know what the expectation is and I can paint away rest assured. (But honestly, I still stress a little on color and the digital hues vs my actual paint!)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10963137.post-37425250043377579732009-01-10T15:33:00.000-08:002009-01-10T15:33:00.000-08:00Kathy-Thanks for the great comment. Yea, Leigh str...Kathy-<BR/>Thanks for the great comment. Yea, Leigh strikes me as an artist with a strong will and a lot of b_lls as you say. But then look at her breed of choice, with Boston Terriers ruling her roost she would have to sort of know herself and have a tad bit of determination. We are very lucky to know so many talented women.artpawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07548549948218554126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10963137.post-36415028176643192932009-01-10T14:07:00.000-08:002009-01-10T14:07:00.000-08:00I am SO GLAD you chose to highlight LEigh and in p...I am SO GLAD you chose to highlight LEigh and in particular her business model. For so long I've been perplexed by it and at the same time oh so envious. I love the way she works. It really takes DECISIVENESS and a huge amount of GUTS (well, what I really mean to say is B_LLS, but I was trying to keep this G-rated). I have saluted her in private for so long, but now it is great that you are saluting her in PUBLIC for it. Thanks again Beccs for a great post.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07308789456184277063noreply@blogger.com